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glenny boy 10:14 Wed Feb 4
ever heard of this rule when selling a house

If you have a conservatory, but then decide to do away with patio doors that are internal between the original house build and the conservatory and make it open plan, that when you come to sell, you must have doors refitted?

Anyone ever come across this scenario?

Beckton Bill 3:21 Wed Feb 4
Re: ever heard of this rule when selling a house

Some good and some awful answers below. Its only Building Regulations that come into this.......

The regulations state that conservatories are exempt form building Regulations providing you meet certain criteria. One of these is that there is a thermal break between the conservatory and house. (Ever tried to heat a conservatory this time of year?)

Therefore if the conservatory is open to the house the conservatory should have had a Building Control application. This would not stop the conservatory from being open to the house but result in other thermal upgrades to compensate for the lack of doors.

However there are 1000's of conservatories built without Building Regulations that are open to the house. Building Control won't have time or be bothered to check on every conservatory to make sure they comply.

My suggestion.... find one you like with or without doors go for it..... If the solicitor picks it up during a search then take out indemnity insurance.

The only point you need to be mindful is if the work has had building work and there is no Building Control final/completion certificate.

Oh and by the way you don't need two doors between the kitchen and WC. Its a builders myth.

Joe C 12:14 Wed Feb 4
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Yep, my folks had similar when selling their house last year - they had removed an internal door that led to the utility room.

Tried for an insurance indemnity but wasn't accepted by lender, so ended up having a cheap door refitted - cost less than the indemnity would have

Driz 12:10 Wed Feb 4
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Ask your solicitor for an indemnity insurance quote its a possible solution they/their lender will accept.

This is for breach of building regulations and may be a cheaper solution for you.

Sniper 10:50 Wed Feb 4
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Was your conservatory permitted development?

glenny boy 10:45 Wed Feb 4
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I'm not selling but maybe looking to buy and i notice that a couple of properties that I am going to look at do not have doors fitted.

Good to know the regs so that I can bring them up in conversation. Thanks

kch 10:30 Wed Feb 4
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you can't have an open plan conservatory without planning permission - building regs say that you must have doors between the old outside wall and the conservatory if you built without planning permission. fire regs and green/eco regs innit. so yes, you will need to put the doors back, or the survey will show that they aren't there, and the buyers won;t get a mortgage on your property.

if you did get planning permission for the conservatory then you'll be OK.

I think.

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/conservatories/

10thofMay 10:30 Wed Feb 4
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Exactly the same when i had an extension built. Won't bore you with details but regs said i had to have a fire door fitted where i didn't want one. I joked with them that as soon as they had signed the paperwork the door would be removed instantly. (I also hadn't painted it either).

Anyway, door is now a very useful workbench in my garage.

10th

Johnson 10:30 Wed Feb 4
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Asked my missus who does conveyancing - her take is:

No.... Depends if they are structural, if so then they may want them replaced to make the house structurally sound. French doors often are structural. Depends what's between them also as I think technically you need 2 closing doors between a toilet and kitchen (learnt that one yesterday!).

I've taken out the shit about what we're doing for dinner etc.

Joke Whole 10:29 Wed Feb 4
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If a pair of exterior doors paid by and for use of the registered house owner are subsequently called upon to act as interior doors to a conservatory, and those doors are then removed, said doors cannot be replaced to act as exterior doors until the conservatory collapses plus a period of 5 further days has expired.

HTH

Rodfarts 10:29 Wed Feb 4
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Yes mate.


When you put a conservatory on you have to still go by regulations.......The only time you don't is if you leave the doors on the main house.


I thought everyone knew this?

Gavros 10:27 Wed Feb 4
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a conservatory does not comply with building regs, hence you have to reinstall the doors. Simple, really.

hammerspain 10:26 Wed Feb 4
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Talk to your solicitor about taking out indemnity insurance. We have just done exactly same thing and cost us about £60 when we moved last week. I put in double doors (yes, i am a proper chippie) when we did conservatory to get building regs at the time and took them out straight away. This is common practice (building inspector was even joking about it as doors were only part of refurb not painted).

goose 10:19 Wed Feb 4
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only rule i know is FINDERS - KEEPERS.

Oh and whoever smelt it, dealt it. I'm not sure either are applicable here.

Far Cough 10:16 Wed Feb 4
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Don't know why you would get rid of them, put sliding doors in

Honest Hammer 10:15 Wed Feb 4
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Surely so long as the work complies with building regs there's no problem